Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by noviadi.suryo » Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:40 am

Got 2 after takes forever to repeat the battle, and never get the third .....

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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by Nightshade » Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:49 am

Equip an Ivory Book.

Will raise the chances from 1% to 31%.
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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by Redhollowlives999 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:37 pm

Nightshade wrote:...the probabilities are something like 1-2% without the Ivory Book and 5-7% with.
What happened to this? I presumed this to be true for the longest time.
it really do be like that tho

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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by Nightshade » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:50 am

I dunno. Much higher boost than I thought?
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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by Redhollowlives999 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:42 am

The absorption rate seems a lot harder than 31%. It would probably help if we looked at their HP levels and decide from there where that absorption sweet spot lies (since apparently that's important when absorbing Seru).
it really do be like that tho

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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by meth962 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:27 am

HP doesn't have anything to do with outside of they have to be dead to absorb :)

You're running into compounding probability. It may be 31% to absorb one seru, but for you to absorb two your chances are 9.6%. If you wanted three, it would be 3% chance that you absorb all three. That's like having 100 of us play it and 3 of us might get all three.
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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by Nightshade » Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:02 pm

meth962 wrote:HP doesn't have anything to do with outside of they have to be dead to absorb :)

You're running into compounding probability. It may be 31% to absorb one seru, but for you to absorb two your chances are 9.6%. If you wanted three, it would be 3% chance that you absorb all three. That's like having 100 of us play it and 3 of us might get all three.
3 of us on average. Any number of us could go 3 for 3, but in an infinite number of simulations, the mean number of people going 3 for 3 would converge to 3 / 100.

By the way, will you have time to look at enemy AI at some point in the future?
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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by meth962 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:15 pm

Yup, and with the 3 of you, it would take each of you 8 times to try it before it would even be at a 50/50 chance of just one of you getting all three absorbs.

I don't plan on doing anything with the AI. I've not a lot of free time and when I do get some, I have some other projects in mind that have more demand : /
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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by noviadi.suryo » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:03 am

Yeah gillium is one of the hardest seru to catch.
The rate is very low

I had to spent 1 hour only able to absorb just 2 for noa and gala

any one lucky enough to get them below 30 minutes for each char ? :D

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Re: Have you obtained Gilium in Jette's Fortress?

Post by Nightshade » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:38 pm

noviadi.suryo wrote:Yeah gillium is one of the hardest seru to catch.
The rate is very low

I had to spent 1 hour only able to absorb just 2 for noa and gala

any one lucky enough to get them below 30 minutes for each char ? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ8MkfMwn0

I get all the Seru for all the characters in a little under 2 hours.

Gilium starts at 4:17:21 (10:56:14 on the run timer)

Noa gets hers at 4:19:36 (10:58:29)
Vahn gets his at 4:21:29 (11:00:22)
Gala gets his at 4:27:23 (11:06:15)

It takes just about exactly 10 minutes to get all three of the characters the Gilium absorb.
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