Argument Thread

[Rammerrush]

This is mainly to take Red and Zuppy's arguments off the chat board but if anyone else has something to argue about or to add to the argument go ahead just keep it off the chat board, it gets annoying lol.

[Zup]

Sorry >_>

I shall move all of my arguing with red (unless it's very minor) to here.

if he doesn't, it is not my fault

[Redhollowlives999]

I do as I please....




mjz Kazan won


you remain in the middle...




KAZAN PUT ME IN MY PLACE

[Zup]

nope. from an objective standpoint, i won. i obliterated your arguments and showed, clearly, just how powerful ssj4 gogeta is and why he would easily win the battle. i even mapped out 8 different scenarios.

the only reason you say your friend won is because you won't admit your defeat to me, especially after our long battle. but i know the result.

i shall dwell on this debate no longer. it would just be to humour you. i have already claimed the victory on my belt. til next time.

[Redhollowlives999]

nope. from an objective standpoint, i won. i obliterated your arguments and showed, clearly, just how powerful ssj4 gogeta is and why he would easily win the battle. i even mapped out 8 different scenarios.

HAHAHAHAHAHA I ACTUALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD!
Your arguments were abysmal and I annihilated ALL of your points... you just kept repeating everything and expecting victory..

the only reason you say your friend won is because you won't admit your defeat to me, especially after our long battle. but i know the result.

you have now pissed me off
Kazan made points and references to episodes (EXACT QUOTES AND ALL) FROM THE TOP OF HIS HEAD! His argument put me in my place!

Yours did nothing but annoy me... You kept repeating the same statements and looked only at what gogeta could do.. your argument were very bias until you learned about aizen..
idc if he can blow up galaxies
IDC about his universal spirit bomb
idc about how you THINK he has unlimited power

None of your arguments went as deep as Kazan's.. Yours were nothing compared to kazan... He used all the best reasons why aizen couldn't beat Gogeta by going into every aspect in full dept... He was above my level and i can accept that...


you learned about aizen the other day and you wanted to preach to me >_>

i shall dwell on this debate no longer. it would just be to humour you. i have already claimed the victory on my belt. til next time.

What victory
Kazan won fool



You can't compare... ever...
get over your denial...

[Zup]

alright, fine, I'll take the bait.

One last time on this debate.

HAHAHAHAHAHA I ACTUALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD!

Of course you did. You think you're above me.

Whatever

Your arguments were abysmal and I annihilated ALL of your points...

You didn't annihilate a single one, actually, you simply dismissed them and said Aizen was equal in every aspect and better in some without actually giving examples for proof and backup. You just ignored everything I said.

you just kept repeating everything and expecting victory..

I only repeated things because you ignored them. When you ignore the facts that clearly show why Gogeta wins, there's nothing else I can do other than continue to repeat them so they don't get washed away in your denial.

you have now pissed me off

Oh really?

Kazan made points and references to episodes (EXACT QUOTES AND ALL) FROM THE TOP OF HIS HEAD! His argument put me in my place!

And I already complimented that, as it's impressive. I myself couldn't do that if I tried.

But you see, there's no need to reference episodes when SSJ4 Gogeta was only in the final fight against Omega Shenron. Everything one would need to know is in their short encounter.

I referenced many things, a lot of which were off the top of MY head. He seems to know a lot more about the DB universe, and I respect that. I didn't quote anyone other than the Bleach wiki, and that's because we were arguing about an enemy I hadn't even gotten to yet. Those quotes helped my case, yet you simply dismissed them, just like the others.

I referenced power levels and comparisons showing clearly how and why SSJ4 Gogeta would win (as I have mentioned before. you ignored this too). I gave you incredible feats done by characters not even close to SSJ4 Gogeta's level, yet you still underestimate his power and skill.

Yours did nothing but annoy me... You kept repeating the same statements and looked only at what gogeta could do..

I have already explained why I repeated my points. You know, you keep repeating the claim that I keep repeating things my statements. I wouldn't have to if you just listened to them and not ignored them like you did.

your argument were very bias until you learned about aizen..

I'll admit it was pretty biased, seeing as how I didn't know anything about Aizen.

However, even after studying him and showing that I did know what he could do, you still tossed my arguments and reasoning aside simply because you don't respect my opinions, and you don't have to.

idc if he can blow up galaxies

Why? Because it helps my argument and hurts yours? That's a little biased yourself, don't you think?

IDC about his universal spirit bomb

Again with the bias.

idc about how you THINK he has unlimited power

This isn't even too relevant to the discussion, since SSJ4 Gogeta, in the short amount of time he is on screen, has already shown how and why he could defeat Aizen.

But see, this is where your arguments start to lose strength and weight in my eyes. The whole point of the discussion is not "which character do you like more or think is cooler" it was "who would win in a fight." Everything you said you didn't care about was relevant to the skills SSJ4 Gogeta could utilize in a fight.

In fact, your argument didn't stay as "SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Aizen." It became "Dragon Ball vs. Bleach" and "Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu is incredibly powerful."

None of your arguments went as deep as Kazan's.. Yours were nothing compared to kazan...

I can neither confirm nor deny that, since I wasn't involved in the conversation. Nor can I be sure it even took place.

But from what you've said, he sounds more knowledgeable about DB than I am. Yet if he chose the same siding as me, how could you say I lost but he won? From the start, I took SSJ4 Gogeta's side, and never left it. I gave you every point needed in order to come to the likely outcomes.

Face it, it's because you don't respect my opinions, but you respect his. That's fine. Just admit it.

He used all the best reasons why aizen couldn't beat Gogeta by going into every aspect in full dept...

Now "best" reasons are opinions. And I went into as much depth as was needed. In fact, I went into much deeper detail of Gogeta's side than you ever did for Aizen.

He was above my level and i can accept that...

Yet you can't accept my opinion. Alright then >_>

you learned about aizen the other day and you wanted to preach to me >_>

I did not want to "preach" to you, in fact. I knew from the start that unless this Aizen guy was omnipotent, SSJ4 Gogeta was going to win. And I was right.

Nevertheless, I did in fact do my research, thus giving strength to my argument (though not as much as yours or Kazan's, I would imagine). Yet you still ignored everything I said because you don't respect my opinions.

What victory

The victory I rightfully earned by taking the side that would clearly win the fight and fully fleshing out my arguments and reasons for doing so.

Kazan won fool

He did win. As did I, because we both chose SSJ4 Gogeta as the winner in the encounter between him and Aizen, and it was how the result would be (not that it would ever happen).

You're simply trying to take the victory away from me and bestow it onto your friend.

You can't compare... ever...

How so? You mean in DB and Bleach knowledge compared to your friend? Probably not, but I'm not trying to tbh.

In fact your put downs like these are kinda petty, don't you think?

get over your denial...

I'm not in denial of anything. You are. These are the facts in their rawest state:

1. SSJ4 Gogeta vs Aizen debate begins
2. I take Gogeta's side. You take Aizen's.
3. We both present our cases
4. Your friend takes Gogeta's side, you are convinced he would win
5. You claim I never won in any way, shape or form, and that your friend did.

The truth is, I was correct from the start, you just don't respect my opinion enough to admit it.

You are the one in denial.

And now I'm through with this argument.

[Rammerrush]

hehe I still love the analyzing

[Zup]

I think it's my best one to date. I went all out (not passion-wise, but with words and all that)

Probably the longest for awhile, though he'll find a way to force me to top it

[K73SK]

Just don't get out of hand with this topic and I'll leave it. I don't want you guys attacking one another very offensively...

[Rammerrush]

lol if they dont do it here theyll do it on the chat board where would you rather have it haha